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Dispute a Ban
« on: November 22, 2011, 12:02:14 PM »
Hi,

I have been banned from your BC2 server "[VnV] Conquest NOOB Friendly--Chicago-- " on 23/11/11 02:20 am (GMT+8) while there was a VnV clan member "JONNYQUESST" inside.

I don't know if he is the admin or its an auto admin server. Or the kick/ban mechanism is similar to the turd server which consider you are hacking if your killing is in a very fast pace.

Well, i am not hacking.
My in game name is "1fl.oz".
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/pc/stats/1fl.oz.
Which is my 3rd character.

My first character which also represent my clan is "antcreep"
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/pc/stats/antcreep
Which i used to plat all the Vietnam guns in your Vietnam server as well.

My second one is "EyesOnEnemy"
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/pc/stats/EyesOnEnemy

And some other "just for fun" characters i created which i think you can check it with the admin right through the PB GUID.

I just want to let you know that i have almost 1500 gaming hours altogether in BC2, which i don't need to hack can also play this game fair well.

btw, this is my cheat-O-meter rating:
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/html/cheat-analysis.php?p=1fl.oz.

what hacker looks like is this guy, the one i met earlier this afternoon
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/html/cheat-analysis.php?p=cpt-VISION

Thanks for watching the post, i guess everyone is focusing on BF3 rather than Bc2.
All my clanmates quit BC2 and BF3-ing, while i am stuck with my old Pc and window XP.
Actually i am quite piss when i got a banned note on my screen. Thats why i register the forum :-\ and ask to leave my ban. thank you very much.

ant



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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2011, 12:20:12 PM »
Ant,

Here is where I am at. I was watching you for several games after you came to my attention. I didn't come to this decision lightly.

I checked the sites that you posted and noticed that your stats are not that different that that of what you presented as a cheater. The only difference was that you didn't use the LMG as that player did.

While I was watching you play, I observe that you were running atleast a 3.7 k/d which in itself is not that weird if you were sniping or a spawn camper. But you were mobile and I watched as you had an obvious ESP. of approaching players. I could see you track a non highlighted player and shoot them as they came around the corner. Now some people get lucky but that is fishy.

Now onto stats... I used these tracking sites to come to my decision.

http://vnvclan.gameme.com/playerinfo/128390
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/1fl.oz.
http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/1fl.oz./
and of course your site...
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/html/cheat-analysis.php?p=1fl.oz.

Onto other business... I would direct you to the clan rules page..http://vnvclan.com/server-rules/.. to look over.
I am very confident and stand by my decision. It is one thing to use an aid and it is another to admit that you were and be a different type of player.

JonnyQuest
« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 02:31:05 PM by JONNYQUEST »

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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 08:41:44 PM »
Hi, thx for the reply. Here is my explanation.

I checked the sites that you posted and noticed that your stats are not that different that that of what you presented as a cheater. The only difference was that you didn't use the LMG as that player did.

Well, i really don't enjoy using the LMG/medic class since its pretty useless, no smoke, noisy, slow reload, 0 ability vs vehicle, suck at close range etc... ... but that doesn't mean i am not good at it. Medic LMG for me is a support class from far to middle range.

And the link i posted. If you look at that head shot ratio of that hacker. You could see all the guns are more than 50%.  Which can classified him as an aimbotter. Not to mention his overall rating is 56.8% cheating

If you want to look at a player with similar stat, check this out:
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/html/cheat-analysis.php?p=Karnak_Kh
Some random guy i play with on North America server.

Or compare to some of my clanmate
Twins_klose -> top 200 player in the world. Also the first one in our clan who plat everything including light vehicle. :o
His second character Twins_Hack <- a nick name which our clan gave him, lol
http://www.team-des-fra.fr/html/cheat-analysis.php?p=twins_hack

I mean, if you look around, its pretty easy to find players like me out there, even better than me.
Note that i am using my best and favorite weapon. If i am using sucky SCARL, M14, Type88 sniper, 870combact, SPAS, my K/D will drop a lot for sure. On the other hand, all the other weapons, i am confident to maintain my K/D around 2 if i wanted to with my standard now. (Yeah, i plat all the guns too :P)

While I was watching you play, I observe that you were running atleast a 3.7 k/d which in itself is not that weird if you were sniping or a spawn camper. But you were mobile and I watched as you had an obvious ESP. of approaching players. I could see you track a non highlighted player and shoot them as they came around the corner. Now some people get lucky but that is fishy.

First of all, i apologize with my weak english standard. I am not sure what you mean by "you had an obvious ESP. of approaching players" But i could understand your point that you think i am using wall hack?
Ok, if so, its very difficult to prove no matter what i said. But normally, i can tell you that it is because i have the sense where the enemies come from. -->The path they choose to walk, only a few options if you know the map well.

So to speak, enemy automated shouting/yelling"man down" can immediately tell me your position. Bullet track, friendly sensor. Everything show on the map give me clue, my hot key to the bigger map is "G" and i press it all the time. If i am a medic, i can know where the enemy coming just to look at the "electricity symbol" on the map, teammates die, better double check that way. Is an experience from BF2.
When i hear the gun shooting sound, i already know what gun you using,  even all the engineer silent weapons. I can also distinguish.
And the very basic thing, Q...Q....Q.... I spot a lot too.

My clan is a semi-pro clan. we don't have our own server, but we do train a lot on every maps in bc2. I even record all the spawn points in Arica harbor  for our clan match, and we didn't lose any challenge from other clan.
My clan website:
http://badasshq.org/
http://forum.badasshq.org/index.php

Man, its all about experience.
In fact, i know you won't buy it.
So here is my proposal, you pick a time, i play a game with you, and i record the game play with Fraps. and post on my youtube account. Hows that sound? I really want to clear my accusation and i am not afraid to do so.

I know this post is very arrogant, but frankly, i really want to tell you guys that the average North American players is a lot weaker than the one i fight in Japan. (Well, before BF3 comes out, many good players have already shifted, i believe so do the US good player)

Finally, an easy tip: "when you getting shot, run to find cover first, don't stand there and find where is the enemy" lol, i saw a lot sitting duck in your server actually. And also, i remember in the maps Lagura Alta? I killed you near a rock, i am surprise that when your squad mate just die next to you, but you didn't find cover. :-\

Cheers
ant

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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2011, 08:59:33 PM »
Hey, i just re-read your post
It is one thing to use an aid and it is another to admit that you were and be a different type of player.

Is that what i think it is? an insult?
Comon, don't be so full of yourself. :-\

Just pick a time and i will be there. Not necessary your server, i didn't get ban in any other server. Send me a friend request in game, i will join you next time when i seen you online.

btw, is that your stat?
http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/jonnyquest/
I remember you are at higher rank?
I would feel really piss if thats your stat, coming from a guy like that accuse me using hack?
« Last Edit: November 23, 2011, 09:05:12 PM by ant »

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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 08:27:22 PM »
Ant,
I never attempt to insult or put myself in a position of superiority over another player. You asked why.. I explained why. This club was not started yesterday nor are we or I noobs or rookies. My stats are not an issue nor do I care about my k/d. I play for fun not to see myself on the top of the board. The issue at hand is your time spent on the server that was very questionable.
Your attitude is not uncommon and is not helping your request. If you choose to rephrase your language and approach as an adult.. I think headway can be made.
Either way I am forwarding this thread to the founders and they will make the final decision. Just keep in mind that they read everything and check stats as well.
Formal or informal request for scrims or challenges must be made through the proper thread.


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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 02:32:28 PM »
Jonny,

First of all, i apologize to anyone who felt offended by this thread. As you may already know from my poor grammar, english isn't my mother tongue.(I've always fail at writing) However, i don't like fancy speech, i always choose to speak directly and straight to the point, be honest to myself.

You are right, this personality or behave like a child can always got me into trouble.  And yes, i was putting myself in a superior position, but not to anyone, just to you. You question my skills and i question your judgement.

I think this is your true stat:
http://www.bfbc2.eu/en/pc/stats/JONNYQUESST
The one i post previously is wrong? :o

Your stat cannot make me believe you have the ability to make this decision. Don't get me wrong, i don't look at K/D. I was a recruiter in my clan before. What i look for is SPM and pins(e.g. how many sensor ops pin/ a lot avenger pins mean you always stay behind teammate), the gun you use, kill rate, accuracy, headshot ratio...etc. So to predict your specialty and style. But you have already said it. You play for fun, in other words, a leisure player in a good way, a noob in a bad way.

Who play this game isn't for fun?
Who would enjoy getting kill/knifed all the time?
Who doesn't want to win the game?

Well, however, it is so unfair to judge you by only one character stat, may be you have other accounts or tone of FPS game experience.

I won't lie to you, the reason i started this thread is not because i needed the unban, there are still plenty server available. Nor i wanted to challenge your clan. Its the truth, i should be thankful already because your server didn't block Asia player. With my ping nearly 300. Your server still allow us to play.

And i don't want to start my theory on how my pings can get me an advantage in your server. I know i speak too much already.

The reason i continue replying this thread is because i am angry with Jonny, who i think is a noob, accused me using hack. The feeling is like a layman telling you what a pro should look like. Its unlike the feeling that some random player on the sever typing:"bs, you are hacking!" those are typing warrior which i usually ignore. The reason i post so many feedback/BS is because i want you to know, jonny, as an admin, you have the power, so you have the responsibility. ( :D Spiderman) You cannot abuse it.

This can turn into an endless argument which nobody would want to see. Thats why i suggested that you play a game with me, not a challenge, same team/squad the best. And i record the game play and show you how i walk and shoot. I think i can't cheat on that? But if you say i can use video editing program. Then i really have nothing to say. :-\  After all, this is your server, your property, you can do whatever you wants to and at the ends, i can only accept it.

Thats all i wanted to say, i am looking forward to the founders decision and i don't mind they read or check my stats at all. Because i am clean :)

Cheers,
ant


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Re: Dispute a Ban
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 03:29:45 PM »
I think we are done here.